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"English" like spanking...... Discuss

Posted by forest123 on Wed 1 Feb 2012 to the SM/Bondage/Fetish web board

Well that's according to Keira Knightley

http://uk.omg.yahoo.com/gossip/the-juice/keira-k...

I for one will not argue…… would love to spank her :-)

But are the English more kinky than others? Any Welsh, or Scots with a view feel free to join in.

I blame my boarding school education….

“It is only by enlarging the scope of one's tastes and one's fantasies, by sacrificing everything to pleasure that the unfortunate individual called Man, thrown despite himself into the sad world, can succeed in gathering a few roses among life's thorns.'' – Marquis de Sade

Reply by tanken on Wed 1 Feb 2012

I would prefer her to be a domme though, she has the right face for it :)

Happiness is a warm bum :)

Reply by TuvaOrBust on Wed 1 Feb 2012

A French friend who was very active in the scence once commented to me about how - even within the BDSM community - spanking was very much an English thing. I really don't know if there is any truth to it.

Reply by SemiTrainedApe on Wed 1 Feb 2012

It's been known as 'the English vice' for centuries.

Rather that than scat* - I've got the impression that the Germans are stereotypically linked with that particular kink.

*Not that there's anything wrong with that type of thing!

Reply by NickiB on Wed 1 Feb 2012

The Marquis de Sade? French.

Leopold von Sacher-Masoch - Austrian.

'Nuff said? :)

Nicki

Reply by forest123 on Wed 1 Feb 2012

tanken wrote:
I would prefer her to be a domme though, she has the right face for it :)

Having checked out the photo in the link again I tend to agree, maybe she is trying to avoid being typecast as a sub.

I think further research in the form of a trip to the cinema to watch the movie is required for a definitive answer.

All in the name of research of course

“It is only by enlarging the scope of one's tastes and one's fantasies, by sacrificing everything to pleasure that the unfortunate individual called Man, thrown despite himself into the sad world, can succeed in gathering a few roses among life's thorns.'' – Marquis de Sade

Reply by emma_tv_edinburgh on Wed 1 Feb 2012

Was it not KK who did a photoshoot tied to a bed about 5 years ago?

edit to add - sorry, I'm thinking of Keeley Hawes.

Reply by rehtael_ni_dal on Wed 1 Feb 2012

No - no more than any nationality I guess although I await a certain somebody to advise us of satistics

PS I'm Irish so I hope that it was ok for me to join in

:)

I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it.

Voltaire (François-Marie Arouet (21 November 1694 – 30 May 1778)

Reply by forest123 on Wed 1 Feb 2012

rehtael_ni_dal wrote:
No - no more than any nationality I guess although I await a certain somebody to advise us of satistics

PS I'm Irish so I hope that it was ok for me to join in

:)

By all means join in, always welcome a comment from the emerald isle. First ever kinky shag was with a girl from Stabane.... :-)

“It is only by enlarging the scope of one's tastes and one's fantasies, by sacrificing everything to pleasure that the unfortunate individual called Man, thrown despite himself into the sad world, can succeed in gathering a few roses among life's thorns.'' – Marquis de Sade

Reply by atwistedgent on Wed 1 Feb 2012

Through another site I got chatting to an American who it wouldn't be much of an exaggeration to say was astounded to learn that the English weren't spanking each other pretty much non stop.

Seems even kink has stereotyping and spanking is the English one.

Reply by DeCoverley on Wed 1 Feb 2012

forest123 wrote:
By all means join in, always welcome a comment from the emerald isle. First ever kinky shag was with a girl from Stabane.... :-)

Blimey. She'd have to be seriously hot to make me go anywhere near Strabane… anyway, this Irishman prefers using a cane etc to spanking :-D

Reply by Nononsensegeordie on Wed 1 Feb 2012

atwistedgent wrote:
Through another site I got chatting to an American who it wouldn't be much of an exaggeration to say was astounded to learn that the English weren't spanking each other pretty much non stop.

Seems even kink has stereotyping and spanking is the English one.

apparently geordies are right in to spanking their partners
Reply by Mad_Monk on Wed 1 Feb 2012

It does appear to be a practice that is internationally associated with the Southern ("posh") English but the fascination seems to be fairly worldwide. Whilst travelling - usually after a modicum of alcohol has been consumed and friends have dropped dark hints about my proclivities - I have been asked to explain what is supposed to be so pleasurable about it by French, Norwegian, Russian, Moroccan, Israeli, Thai and Japanese nationals. It is usually women who ask and it is a pleasure to enlighten. Often, a discrete invitation doesn't take long to follow and again I am happy to oblige. Of course, the curious and relatively 'nilla are best subjected to a low-key erotic buttock-warming rather than a hearty pounding.

"He took a single sip of her pain and found it exquisite"

Reply by Happy_Monkey_J on Wed 1 Feb 2012

NickiB wrote:
The Marquis de Sade? French.

Leopold von Sacher-Masoch - Austrian.

'Nuff said? :)

The argument is not that Sado-masochism is English, it's that Sado-Masochistic types in England are particularly enchanted with spanking (as opposed to whipping caning, etc).

Monkeys are superior to men in this: when a monkey looks into a mirror, he sees a monkey - Malcolm De Chazal

When you're dealing with monkeys, you've got to expect some wrenches - Alvah Bessie

Reply by forest123 on Wed 1 Feb 2012

DeCoverley wrote:
forest123 wrote:
By all means join in, always welcome a comment from the emerald isle. First ever kinky shag was with a girl from Stabane.... :-)

Blimey. She'd have to be seriously hot to make me go anywhere near Strabane… anyway, this Irishman prefers using a cane etc to spanking :-D

looks like I was lucky to be dating here outside of Strabane then .... Might also expalin why once the family found out I was history.... still it set me on the path

“It is only by enlarging the scope of one's tastes and one's fantasies, by sacrificing everything to pleasure that the unfortunate individual called Man, thrown despite himself into the sad world, can succeed in gathering a few roses among life's thorns.'' – Marquis de Sade

Reply by forest123 on Wed 1 Feb 2012

Mad_Monk wrote:
It does appear to be a practice that is internationally associated with the Southern ("posh") English but the fascination seems to be fairly worldwide. Whilst travelling - usually after a modicum of alcohol has been consumed and friends have dropped dark hints about my proclivities - I have been asked to explain what is supposed to be so pleasurable about it by French, Norwegian, Russian, Moroccan, Israeli, Thai and Japanese nationals. It is usually women who ask and it is a pleasure to enlighten. Often, a discrete invitation doesn't take long to follow and again I am happy to oblige. Of course, the curious and relatively 'nilla are best subjected to a low-key erotic buttock-warming rather than a hearty pounding.

Sounds like I need to take a gap year PDQ ;-)

“It is only by enlarging the scope of one's tastes and one's fantasies, by sacrificing everything to pleasure that the unfortunate individual called Man, thrown despite himself into the sad world, can succeed in gathering a few roses among life's thorns.'' – Marquis de Sade

Reply by Once_upon_a_rhyme on Wed 1 Feb 2012

A-ha!

"In England it's got mentioned all the time. I don't know what that says about us! We obviously like spanking"

Told you so.

"We're all wankers here," said the cat, "You're a wanker. I'm a wanker."

"How do you know I'm a wanker?" asked Alice.

"You must be. Or you wouldn't have come here."

Reply by Betony on Sat 11 Feb 2012

She used a body double.

One syllable short of a full haiku

Reply by blushcheeks on Sat 11 Feb 2012

Betony wrote:

She used a body double.

..what a silly girl.

Reply by krazyenema on Sat 11 Feb 2012

blushcheeks wrote:

..what a silly girl.

Quite right! Some people.....Tsk.

Reply by cheeks_fortanning on Sat 11 Feb 2012 (modified Sun 12 Feb 2012)

forest123 wrote:
"English" like spanking...... Discuss

Well that's according to Keira Knightley

http://uk.omg.yahoo.com/gossip/the-juice/keira-k...

I for one will not argue…… would love to spank her :-)

But are the English more kinky than others? Any Welsh, or Scots with a view feel free to join in.

I blame my boarding school education….

I don't think that the "BRITISH" people are much different to most other countries when it comes to spanking....... In a lot of other countries, I feel that there societies are probably more open and broad minded...... Here in Britain though, there are always those I feel, who are trying to do some mischief by making scandalous comments to try and do some harm to those who partake in this activity and similar.

Reply by CaneMePlease on Tue 14 Feb 2012

Fascinating discussion and this is a subject that I know lots about, so here are some reflections:

Spanking and caning has always been the traditional way of disciplining the middle and upper class children in Britain, in a way that has been outlawed for 100 years in a country like Holland. But it sits in the British psyche and used to be the necessary experience for everybody at a public school, especially in the 1960's, when I had my first school SM experience.

And it was hard and it was serious and even the female teachers got involved and it was designed to hurt. But after an hour or so, after the pain had subsided, the heat certainly had not. And this incredibly intense sensation created endorphins in the body, which can get a man or a boy highly aroused.

And this happened to me at the age of 7, when a leather booted, short-skirted 30 year old teacher, who only an hour before had personally sent me to the housemaster for a beating, stood up and said: "And the next time I will beat you myself". My reaction to this was to get a feeling in my trousers, that most 7 year old's have never experienced and I decided at that moment to do everything I could do to get her 'to keep her promise'. Which she never did, but I was hooked for life......

So this in my view is a very British phenomenon, which leads to the almost unique concept of 'Spank 'n wank' and I know for myself that a well laid-in paddling or caning, where the skin is not broken, can personally lead me into total ecstasy. And in my view it is only British women who have spanking and caning in their blood and get a serious kick out from handing it out (and/or receiving it). But unfortunately I live in Europe, where the women do not understand this, simply because it is not in their psyche and they have no experience with it.

I hope this story helps

CaneMePlease

Reply by slavejef on Tue 14 Feb 2012

CaneMePlease wrote:
Fascinating discussion and this is a subject that I know lots about, so here are some reflections:

Spanking and caning has always been the traditional way of disciplining the middle and upper class children in Britain, in a way that has been outlawed for 100 years in a country like Holland. But it sits in the British psyche and used to be the necessary experience for everybody at a public school, especially in the 1960's, when I had my first school SM experience.

And it was hard and it was serious and even the female teachers got involved and it was designed to hurt. But after an hour or so, after the pain had subsided, the heat certainly had not. And this incredibly intense sensation created endorphins in the body, which can get a man or a boy highly aroused.

And this happened to me at the age of 7, when a leather booted, short-skirted 30 year old teacher, who only an hour before had personally sent me to the housemaster for a beating, stood up and said: "And the next time I will beat you myself". My reaction to this was to get a feeling in my trousers, that most 7 year old's have never experienced and I decided at that moment to do everything I could do to get her 'to keep her promise'. Which she never did, but I was hooked for life......

So this in my view is a very British phenomenon, which leads to the almost unique concept of 'Spank 'n wank' and I know for myself that a well laid-in paddling or caning, where the skin is not broken, can personally lead me into total ecstasy. And in my view it is only British women who have spanking and caning in their blood and get a serious kick out from handing it out (and/or receiving it). But unfortunately I live in Europe, where the women do not understand this, simply because it is not in their psyche and they have no experience with it.

I hope this story helps

CaneMePlease

Women who are keen on giving a man a good spanking are perhaps rarer than in the UK - but they certainly exist! (France, Netherlands, Germany, Czech Republic and Spain on my CV so far).

Reply by cheeks_fortanning on Sat 18 Feb 2012

CaneMePlease wrote:
Fascinating discussion and this is a subject that I know lots about, so here are some reflections:

Spanking and caning has always been the traditional way of disciplining the middle and upper class children in Britain, in a way that has been outlawed for 100 years in a country like Holland. But it sits in the British psyche and used to be the necessary experience for everybody at a public school, especially in the 1960's, when I had my first school SM experience.

And it was hard and it was serious and even the female teachers got involved and it was designed to hurt. But after an hour or so, after the pain had subsided, the heat certainly had not. And this incredibly intense sensation created endorphins in the body, which can get a man or a boy highly aroused.

And this happened to me at the age of 7, when a leather booted, short-skirted 30 year old teacher, who only an hour before had personally sent me to the housemaster for a beating, stood up and said: "And the next time I will beat you myself". My reaction to this was to get a feeling in my trousers, that most 7 year old's have never experienced and I decided at that moment to do everything I could do to get her 'to keep her promise'. Which she never did, but I was hooked for life......

##############################################

~~~~.So this in my view is a very British phenomenon, which leads to the almost unique concept of 'Spank 'n wank' and I know for myself that a well laid-in paddling or caning, where the skin is not broken, can personally lead me into total ecstasy. And in my view it is only British women who have spanking and caning in their blood and get a serious kick out from handing it out (and/or receiving it). But unfortunately I live in Europe, where the women do not understand this, simply because it is not in their psyche and they have no experience with it.....I hope this story helps.~~~~.

CaneMePlease

Hi,--- I have added a few comments to this thread earlier on and I have read the above comment quite a few times as well...... I like what "canemeplease" has said and I would like to carry on from his post in a similar vane.

I have just been exchanging memos with a female Domme who I met at the "Gloucester munch" last August...... That meeting only really went to the usual pleasantries, and chatting very basically about our inner desires and then we moved places etc and we didn't really see each other again after that....... A few days ago however, we came across each other again on the "IC" personals.

Now then,- Our conversations so far have been more or less about my liking for being spanked and she saying that she isn't really into it and that she prefers other types of Domination....... Well, that's OK by me, but I did ask her if there was a reason why she didn't particularly like spanking and it came to pass, that it doesn't do much for her and she doesn't do one way only satisfaction !!. ....

However, though I have tried to find interest in her kinky type activities, the truth is, they don't do anything for me and I certainly wouldn't go out of my way to try them...... I am a true "spanking fetish" enthusiast, and there are many in this country the same as myself and I don't really want other activities mixed in with me being given c/p,- Its just not necessary !!. .... There are those who are keen to give spankings etc and there are those who are keen to receive...... To be honest, "true spanking enthusiasts" are in a league of there own and shouldn't really be confused with other sub/Dom activities which are a totally different ball game altogether,- Perhaps for instance like,- football and volley ball !!!.

The Lady Domme who I have been communicating with said that I am a rather shallow person in that I only like "spanking" and I would find it very hard to find a Domme who would be willing just to give spankings etc !!. .... What do other "IC" users think on that comment I wonder ?,- I bet there are lots of Females who simply love "just giving spankings and canings".

I firmly believe, that the vast amount of "sub" males on "IC" are those who want to be spanked and caned etc but, I believe what has happened is this,- Those younger "Dominant Females", are dismissing spanking from there repetoir of activities in favor of other stuff that doesn't interest the majority of us males....... Yet, the Female Dommes are more or less saying, Do what "WE" want or nothing....... So,- is "Britain" going to lose yet another of our "British institutions" in favor of hours and hours of boring tie-ing up and lots of knots in rope etc !!.

I have been to munches and I am afraid that "spanking" is more or less being forced out of conversations by Female Dommes mainly, who are trying to bring there own type of fetish to the fore.

Lets keep our unique way of spanking desire firmly "British" and make more of it by trying to build it up again and getting our Fem and Male Dom(mes)to learn the secrets of its power and extacy it can give as "canemeplease" stated. --- Thanks for reading this post,- Also, Regards to "canemeplease" for his interesting post prior to this one and from where I took his lead from to write this post.

Reply by done_with_wondering on Sat 18 Feb 2012

forest123 wrote:
... I blame my boarding school education….

Hmmm - maybe that's why I've ended up the way I have :-)

"Wisdom begins in wonder” (Socrates)

"Imagination is more important than knowledge" (Albert Einstein)

Ubi caritas et amor, Deus ibi est. http://www.informedconsent.co.uk/posts/226772/

Reply by Lady_Susan on Sat 18 Feb 2012

She doesn't look to me as if she has enough bottom to spank.

When I want your opinion, I'll thrash it out of you.

Can you taste the grit between your teeth....

Reply by Gonefishin on Sat 18 Feb 2012

cheeks_fortanning wrote:
CaneMePlease wrote:

I have been to munches and I am afraid that "spanking" is more or less being forced out of conversations by Female Dommes mainly, who are trying to bring there own type of fetish to the fore.

Damn them for having their own agendas- damn them to hell. The cads.

Reply by cheeks_fortanning on Sun 19 Feb 2012

Lady_Susan wrote:
She doesn't look to me as if she has enough bottom to spank.

I agree with you Lady_Susan....... You can't beat a nicely rounded bottom,- Just a minute,- You "CAN BEAT" a nice rounded bottom !! "LOL"

Reply by cheeks_fortanning on Sun 19 Feb 2012

Lady_Susan wrote:
She doesn't look to me as if she has enough bottom to spank.

I agree with you Lady_Susan....... You can't beat a nicely rounded bottom,- Just a minute,- You "CAN BEAT" a nice rounded bottom !! "LOL"

Reply by cheeks_fortanning on Sun 19 Feb 2012

Gonefishin wrote:
cheeks_fortanning wrote:
I have been to munches and I am afraid that "spanking" is more or less being forced out of conversations by Female Dommes mainly, who are trying to bring there own type of fetish to the fore.

Damn them for having their own agendas- damn them to hell. The cads.

I agree,- "THE CADS",- LOL.
Reply by Excellent_Nick on Sun 19 Feb 2012

Black0rchid wrote:
forest123 wrote:
"English" like spanking...... Discuss

Well I'm not much into spanking... but then not much of me is English either, so maybe that proves the theory.

I like filing.

Most of me is German and... I do like filing.

I have tried that but it doesn't do anything for me.

Reply by De_Baal on Sun 19 Feb 2012

cheeks_fortanning wrote:
I firmly believe, that the vast amount of "sub" males on "IC" are those who want to be spanked and caned etc but, I believe what has happened is this,- Those younger "Dominant Females", are dismissing spanking from there repetoir of activities in favor of other stuff that doesn't interest the majority of us males....... Yet, the Female Dommes are more or less saying, Do what "WE" want or nothing....... So,- is "Britain" going to lose yet another of our "British institutions" in favor of hours and hours of boring tie-ing up and lots of knots in rope etc !!.

I have been to munches and I am afraid that "spanking" is more or less being forced out of conversations by Female Dommes mainly, who are trying to bring there own type of fetish to the fore.

This seems to be quite a egocentric viewpoint. What exactly is the foundation for this clearly biased and incorrect assessment? At first I thought the comment made by the Lady Domme about you being quite shallow was a bit harsh, but I see she may have a point. Maybe the Dommes you speak with at munches want to talk about more than just spanking and also talk about things that they particularly like too?

Reply by Xenolith on Sun 19 Feb 2012

Do the English like spanking? I'm English and love to give spankings, I've only had time to sample myself in this census, but there you are; statistically the English are 100% into giving spankings.

Reply by ToakReon on Sun 19 Feb 2012

Toak <- is English, likes spanking.

Don't know about the other 51,456,000 (2008 survey)

*UPDATE* Model(s) for "how to" bondage photographs (and other bondage photographs) have now been found. Thank you to all who showed interest.

Reply by xAdamx on Sun 19 Feb 2012

DeCoverley wrote:
forest123 wrote:
By all means join in, always welcome a comment from the emerald isle. First ever kinky shag was with a girl from Stabane.... :-)

Blimey. She'd have to be seriously hot to make me go anywhere near Strabane… anyway, this Irishman prefers using a cane etc to spanking :-D

A cane ?..surely a shillelagh or a shinty stick ;-)

Reply by cheeks_fortanning on Sun 19 Feb 2012

De_Baal wrote:
cheeks_fortanning wrote:
I firmly believe, that the vast amount of "sub" males on "IC" are those who want to be spanked and caned etc but, I believe what has happened is this,- Those younger "Dominant Females", are dismissing spanking from there repetoir of activities in favor of other stuff that doesn't interest the majority of us males....... Yet, the Female Dommes are more or less saying, Do what "WE" want or nothing....... So,- is "Britain" going to lose yet another of our "British institutions" in favor of hours and hours of boring tie-ing up and lots of knots in rope etc !!.

I have been to munches and I am afraid that "spanking" is more or less being forced out of conversations by Female Dommes mainly, who are trying to bring there own type of fetish to the fore.

This seems to be quite a egocentric viewpoint. What exactly is the foundation for this clearly biased and incorrect assessment? At first I thought the comment made by the Lady Domme about you being quite shallow was a bit harsh, but I see she may have a point. Maybe the Dommes you speak with at munches want to talk about more than just spanking and also talk about things that they particularly like too?

The foundation my dear man, is the fact that "spanking in Britain" is enjoyed and/or accepted by the larger majority as most would agree....... Its like a part of our heritage, but there are those, who try to outlaw it and also find that the more modern era Dom(mes), try to tactfully not talk about spanking and general c/p,- They also do not actively use it in there repetoir...... They/we should as people of "Britain" really stand firm and embrace and support spanking with open arms as well as to re-educate others into the general need and acceptance of and for spanking...... I don't think that I am biased when I say that !!.

Its much the same as football,- Its our heritage, and a lot of damage was done and still being done for that sport, when over twenty years ago, it was decided not to make it a main sports lesson in schools...... The out come of this, is the fact that football clubs have to get foreign players in because British youngsters haven't got the ability or knowledge that is needed except for a mere hand full !!,- The same thing is happening/happened with "spanking" !!.

As for being shallow,-I believe that I could give any one a good run for there money,- Would you like to try ?.

Reply by Groundcontrol on Sun 19 Feb 2012

forest123 wrote:
"English" like spanking...... Discuss

Well that's according to Keira Knightley

http://uk.omg.yahoo.com/gossip/the-juice/keira-k...

I for one will not argue…… would love to spank her :-)

But are the English more kinky than others? Any Welsh, or Scots with a view feel free to join in.

I blame my boarding school education….

I'd like to spank Keira Nightly

Reply by cheeks_fortanning on Sun 19 Feb 2012

forest123 wrote:
"English" like spanking...... Discuss

Well that's according to Keira Knightley

http://uk.omg.yahoo.com/gossip/the-juice/keira-k...

I for one will not argue…… would love to spank her :-)

But are the English more kinky than others? Any Welsh, or Scots with a view feel free to join in.

I blame my boarding school education….

I'm a bit Welsh when it suits me !!.

Reply by Azrayel on Sun 19 Feb 2012

Very English and not really all that keen on spanking. Strangely, I quite like it from my 'nilla partner during sex but if anyone tries to land one on my arse during a scene I'm inclined to damage them. The Sadistic One does it and he knows it infuriates me.

Don't you just love goodbyes?

Reply by ToakReon on Sun 19 Feb 2012

Groundcontrol wrote:
forest123 wrote:
"English" like spanking...... Discuss

Well that's according to Keira Knightley

http://uk.omg.yahoo.com/gossip/the-juice/keira-k...

I for one will not argue…… would love to spank her :-)

But are the English more kinky than others? Any Welsh, or Scots with a view feel free to join in.

I blame my boarding school education….

I'd like to spank Keira Nightly

Hmmm ... and do other things to her as well.

At some point I'll think of something to say here. In the meanwhile if any insanely cute subbie girls want to fling themselves at my feet, please feel free ... *GRIN*

Reply by theDukeofMilan on Mon 20 Feb 2012

If you include fraternity, sorority and school paddling, not to mention OTK hairbrush spanking I'd say worldwide it's a tie between us and our Colonial cousins. Happy to be corrected though, in more ways than one...

darktantratarot.moonfruit.com markramsden.moonfruit.com

Reply by De_Baal on Mon 20 Feb 2012

cheeks_fortanning wrote:
The foundation my dear man, is the fact that "spanking in Britain" is enjoyed and/or accepted by the larger majority as most would agree....... Its like a part of our heritage, but there are those, who try to outlaw it and also find that the more modern era Dom(mes), try to tactfully not talk about spanking and general c/p,- They also do not actively use it in there repetoir......

As for being shallow,-I believe that I could give any one a good run for there money,- Would you like to try ?.

You haven't actually shown a 'fact', but just made a general statement which doesn't sound acceptable, unless you are talking about the larger majority of IC. I appreciate what you saying with regards to it being part of a perceived heritage, but that is the crux of the discussion being put forward.

Also the football analogy doesn't fit either as there is a large proportion of the population who couldn't give two hoots about football. When I say the Lady in question may have a point in regards to being shallow I mean in the limited viewpoint sense. If you are purely focused on your interests and those interests are predominantly of only one small aspect of the the BDSM lifestyle then that can be seen as quite restrictive.

I also notice that whilst you mention 'boring tie-ing up and lots of knots in rope etc', you still have Japanese ropework and rope bondage in your interests. I have yet to experience anyone 'outlawing' it, far from it, it is regularly listed in Dommes interests. Just because they may not be as obsessed with it as you are doesn't indicate some new wave of D/s style.

BDSM is a very varied and colourful experience which covers a multitude of activities, activities that should include things that both parties enjoy immensely. Sometimes we do things which may not be our ultimate thrill, but that is because we need to be aware of the other persons' experience too and not just focus on what floats our boat. This was something I realised very early on; that it wasn't just all about my expectations. There are two people involved, not just one fantasist getting someone else to fulfill their dreams.

I'm sure (in fact I know) there are a lot of Ladies out there who share you're love of CP/Spanking, but who also like to explore other areas of interest to them. Dismissing them does a disservice to both them and yourself.

I hope you find what you are looking for, but I suggest you try being a bit more accommodating of others.

As for giving you a run...well that just wouldn't be fair on you :-)

Good luck and best wishes.

Reply by cheeks_fortanning on Tue 21 Feb 2012

De_Baal wrote:
cheeks_fortanning wrote:
The foundation my dear man, is the fact that "spanking in Britain" is enjoyed and/or accepted by the larger majority as most would agree....... Its like a part of our heritage, but there are those, who try to outlaw it and also find that the more modern era Dom(mes), try to tactfully not talk about spanking and general c/p,- They also do not actively use it in there repetoir......

As for being shallow,-I believe that I could give any one a good run for there money,- Would you like to try ?.

######################################

######.You haven't actually shown a 'fact', but just made a general statement which doesn't sound acceptable, unless you are talking about the larger majority of IC. I appreciate what you saying with regards to it being part of a perceived heritage, but that is the crux of the discussion being put forward.######.

))))))>."Showing facts" about "spanking" being enjoyed and accepted by the majority, wouldn't be easy...... This is because these days, there are to many people, who although in the minority, get on there high horses and "HEAD-LINE MAKE", and more or less, accuse and condemn those in favor of spanking for whatever purpose, to be perhaps barbaric, and/or abusive !!.

For that reason mainly, and to save there selves from being hounded,- "spanking enthusiasts", and others who believe that spanking a child etc should be more generally acceptable, tend to keep silent about there views on it, except myself of course !!.((((((.

######.Also the football analogy doesn't fit either as there is a large proportion of the population who couldn't give two hoots about football.######.

))))))>.Well,- you are proving the point that I made...... I was trying to say, that if what is the countries heritage isn't taught at schools etc, then we are going to get generation after generation of young adults not knowing anything about it !!. .... That's what the problem is with our countries football at this present time,- Thanks for endorsing that fact.((((((.

######.When I say the Lady in question may have a point in regards to being shallow I mean in the limited viewpoint sense. If you are purely focused on your interests and those interests are predominantly of only one small aspect of the the BDSM lifestyle then that can be seen as quite restrictive.######.

))))))>.I am not shallow in my view points,- I might stand strong on them !!. .... What I think that I am trying to put over is this...... Like myself, there are a large number of people who just like being spanked and caned etc, and there are a large number of people who just like giving spankings and canings etc.

I for one, don't need all the "faffing" about with the likes of "candle wax", taking an hour or so to be tied up with scented rope and hundreds of knots and other such time wasting accessories, and I believe that most dedicated spankers and spankees would be of the same opinion,- Its why I say,- I am a spanking enthusiast.

Maybe then,- its the organisers of "munches" who could make the difference,- perhaps if there were munches especially for "spanking enthusiasts, where the talk could be just of spanking, then these would be more interesting for us "enthusiasts" and be attended by the spanking fraternity...... Those people interested in other things could hold there own munches and this idea would be a better way I feel....... I think that I have said previously, that generally speaking, Genuine and dedicated c/p enthusiasts are in a whole different league and most of them, really do not want to be diverted away from it.((((((.

######.I also notice that whilst you mention 'boring tie-ing up and lots of knots in rope etc', you still have Japanese ropework and rope bondage in your interests. I have yet to experience anyone 'outlawing' it, far from it, it is regularly listed in Dommes interests. Just because they may not be as obsessed with it as you are doesn't indicate some new wave of D/s style.######.

))))))>.Yes,- you are quite correct,- I do have "Japanese rope-work" and "rope bondage" on my profile "interests" !!. .... This is really, just in case some one, who would want to "spank" me etc, might also want to do some sort of bondage on me as well....... I wouldn't go looking for rope-work play, and I wouldn't want to much rope play on me either,- its the c/p that I look for.((((((.

######.BDSM is a very varied and colourful experience which covers a multitude of activities, activities that should include things that both parties enjoy immensely.######.

))))))>.Exactly, and my "activity" is spanking, and as I have said earlier,- there are plenty of those out there who are just interested in "spanking" and nothing else....... So,- if those people who go to munches can realise this fact, and be prepared to allow the "spanking fraternity" more time and discussion etc, then the "spanking enthusiasts" might feel more like going to munches, instead of feeling like they have been given the cold shoulder.((((((.

######.Sometimes we do things which may not be our ultimate thrill, but that is because we need to be aware of the other persons' experience too and not just focus on what floats our boat.######.

))))))>.This is why those who are only interested in spanking and c/p, only want to meet up with others who are only interested in spanking and c/p.((((((.

######.This was something I realised very early on; that it wasn't just all about my expectations. There are two people involved, not just one fantasist getting someone else to fulfill their dreams.######.

))))))>.Well, that's up to you isn't it,- I have been interested in my "kink" since I was about ten years old, and that is approximately forty seven years now....... You yourself just a couple of paragraphs back, stated that one should partake in activities with another person that both parties enjoy immensely,- Well I try to and want to,- Yet you are at the same time saying that us "spanking enthusiasts" should take up some other kink activities as well !!!!!.((((((.

######.I'm sure (in fact I know) there are a lot of Ladies out there who share you're love of CP/Spanking######.

))))))>.You are quite correct, but many of those don't go to the "munches" because, just like myself, they to get stifled by stuff that just isn't interesting((((((.

######.Some also like to explore other areas of interest to them. Dismissing them does a disservice to both them and yourself.######.

))))))>. Ahh well,- If there main interest isn't spanking and c/p, then I don't really need them as "kink" friends etc,- I/we need dedicated c/p people,- I am not easily lead astray and I am not one for accepting things that I don't really want.((((((.

######.I hope you find what you are looking for, but I suggest you try being a bit more accommodating of others.######.

)))))))>.When people at munches can be more accommodating of me, then It would go along way to making there selves less boring and more appropriate to chat with.((((((.

######.As for giving you a run...well that just wouldn't be fair on you :-)######.

))))))>.Oh it would be fair !!. .... I was actually talking about giving anybody a run, as in terms of chatting in General Knowledge, and not as in actual physically running etc.((((((.

######.Good luck and best wishes.######.

)))))).Best of luck to you as well.((((((.

Reply by classyact on Tue 21 Feb 2012

atwistedgent wrote:
Through another site I got chatting to an American who it wouldn't be much of an exaggeration to say was astounded to learn that the English weren't spanking each other pretty much non stop.

arn't we?

Reply by forest123 on Tue 21 Feb 2012

Que here :-D

Groundcontrol wrote:
forest123 wrote:
"English" like spanking...... Discuss

Well that's according to Keira Knightley

http://uk.omg.yahoo.com/gossip/the-juice/keira-k...

I for one will not argue…… would love to spank her :-)

But are the English more kinky than others? Any Welsh, or Scots with a view feel free to join in.

I blame my boarding school education….

I'd like to spank Keira Nightly

“It is only by enlarging the scope of one's tastes and one's fantasies, by sacrificing everything to pleasure that the unfortunate individual called Man, thrown despite himself into the sad world, can succeed in gathering a few roses among life's thorns.'' – Marquis de Sade

Reply by crimson_angel on Tue 21 Feb 2012

cheeks_fortanning wrote:
De_Baal wrote:
cheeks_fortanning wrote:
The foundation my dear man, is the fact that "spanking in Britain" is enjoyed and/or accepted by the larger majority as most would agree....... Its like a part of our heritage, but there are those, who try to outlaw it and also find that the more modern era Dom(mes), try to tactfully not talk about spanking and general c/p,- They also do not actively use it in there repetoir......

As for being shallow,-I believe that I could give any one a good run for there money,- Would you like to try ?.

######################################

######.You haven't actually shown a 'fact', but just made a general statement which doesn't sound acceptable, unless you are talking about the larger majority of IC. I appreciate what you saying with regards to it being part of a perceived heritage, but that is the crux of the discussion being put forward.######.

))))))>."Showing facts" about "spanking" being enjoyed and accepted by the majority, wouldn't be easy...... This is because these days, there are to many people, who although in the minority, get on there high horses and "HEAD-LINE MAKE", and more or less, accuse and condemn those in favor of spanking for whatever purpose, to be perhaps barbaric, and/or abusive !!.

For that reason mainly, and to save there selves from being hounded,- "spanking enthusiasts", and others who believe that spanking a child etc should be more generally acceptable, tend to keep silent about there views on it, except myself of course !!.((((((.

######.Also the football analogy doesn't fit either as there is a large proportion of the population who couldn't give two hoots about football.######.

))))))>.Well,- you are proving the point that I made...... I was trying to say, that if what is the countries heritage isn't taught at schools etc, then we are going to get generation after generation of young adults not knowing anything about it !!. .... That's what the problem is with our countries football at this present time,- Thanks for endorsing that fact.((((((.

######.When I say the Lady in question may have a point in regards to being shallow I mean in the limited viewpoint sense. If you are purely focused on your interests and those interests are predominantly of only one small aspect of the the BDSM lifestyle then that can be seen as quite restrictive.######.

))))))>.I am not shallow in my view points,- I might stand strong on them !!. .... What I think that I am trying to put over is this...... Like myself, there are a large number of people who just like being spanked and caned etc, and there are a large number of people who just like giving spankings and canings etc.

I for one, don't need all the "faffing" about with the likes of "candle wax", taking an hour or so to be tied up with scented rope and hundreds of knots and other such time wasting accessories, and I believe that most dedicated spankers and spankees would be of the same opinion,- Its why I say,- I am a spanking enthusiast.

Maybe then,- its the organisers of "munches" who could make the difference,- perhaps if there were munches especially for "spanking enthusiasts, where the talk could be just of spanking, then these would be more interesting for us "enthusiasts" and be attended by the spanking fraternity...... Those people interested in other things could hold there own munches and this idea would be a better way I feel....... I think that I have said previously, that generally speaking, Genuine and dedicated c/p enthusiasts are in a whole different league and most of them, really do not want to be diverted away from it.((((((.

######.I also notice that whilst you mention 'boring tie-ing up and lots of knots in rope etc', you still have Japanese ropework and rope bondage in your interests. I have yet to experience anyone 'outlawing' it, far from it, it is regularly listed in Dommes interests. Just because they may not be as obsessed with it as you are doesn't indicate some new wave of D/s style.######.

))))))>.Yes,- you are quite correct,- I do have "Japanese rope-work" and "rope bondage" on my profile "interests" !!. .... This is really, just in case some one, who would want to "spank" me etc, might also want to do some sort of bondage on me as well....... I wouldn't go looking for rope-work play, and I wouldn't want to much rope play on me either,- its the c/p that I look for.((((((.

######.BDSM is a very varied and colourful experience which covers a multitude of activities, activities that should include things that both parties enjoy immensely.######.

))))))>.Exactly, and my "activity" is spanking, and as I have said earlier,- there are plenty of those out there who are just interested in "spanking" and nothing else....... So,- if those people who go to munches can realise this fact, and be prepared to allow the "spanking fraternity" more time and discussion etc, then the "spanking enthusiasts" might feel more like going to munches, instead of feeling like they have been given the cold shoulder.((((((.

######.Sometimes we do things which may not be our ultimate thrill, but that is because we need to be aware of the other persons' experience too and not just focus on what floats our boat.######.

))))))>.This is why those who are only interested in spanking and c/p, only want to meet up with others who are only interested in spanking and c/p.((((((.

######.This was something I realised very early on; that it wasn't just all about my expectations. There are two people involved, not just one fantasist getting someone else to fulfill their dreams.######.

))))))>.Well, that's up to you isn't it,- I have been interested in my "kink" since I was about ten years old, and that is approximately forty seven years now....... You yourself just a couple of paragraphs back, stated that one should partake in activities with another person that both parties enjoy immensely,- Well I try to and want to,- Yet you are at the same time saying that us "spanking enthusiasts" should take up some other kink activities as well !!!!!.((((((.

######.I'm sure (in fact I know) there are a lot of Ladies out there who share you're love of CP/Spanking######.

))))))>.You are quite correct, but many of those don't go to the "munches" because, just like myself, they to get stifled by stuff that just isn't interesting((((((.

######.Some also like to explore other areas of interest to them. Dismissing them does a disservice to both them and yourself.######.

))))))>. Ahh well,- If there main interest isn't spanking and c/p, then I don't really need them as "kink" friends etc,- I/we need dedicated c/p people,- I am not easily lead astray and I am not one for accepting things that I don't really want.((((((.

######.I hope you find what you are looking for, but I suggest you try being a bit more accommodating of others.######.

)))))))>.When people at munches can be more accommodating of me, then It would go along way to making there selves less boring and more appropriate to chat with.((((((.

######.As for giving you a run...well that just wouldn't be fair on you :-)######.

))))))>.Oh it would be fair !!. .... I was actually talking about giving anybody a run, as in terms of chatting in General Knowledge, and not as in actual physically running etc.((((((.

######.Good luck and best wishes.######.

)))))).Best of luck to you as well.((((((.

Perhaps you could start your own specialist munch/ meeting yourself which would be more suitable, as the informedconsent dictionary entry for a munch is

"A munch is an informal meeting of people interested in BDSM/fetish - an opportunity to meet like-minded people, talk, find out about good clubs or fetish shops, pass on advice or generally network. For many, it's their first foray into the scene. Most munches take place in pubs or similar non-fetish venues. They're almost always "vanilla" - i.e. ordinary clothes and no play."

And as you've said above

cheeks fortanning wrote:
If there main interest isn't spanking and c/p, then I don't really need them as "kink" friends etc
you'd be better off at a specialist event rather than accusing people at a general one who don't share your interests of being boring.

*Edited for a typo.

Sometimes your knight in shining armour is just a retard in tin foil :)

Reply by cheeks_fortanning on Tue 21 Feb 2012

Thanks for your input "Crimson_Angel".

Reply by Ponyboy_uk on Tue 21 Feb 2012

I like it and I'm English but that's somewhat annecdotal.

If there's some sort of list I'd like to put my name down to make fuck / have a freaky kinky bunk-up with KN too. Tell her I'll pay for the hotel room and everything.

Reply by Out_of_Here on Wed 22 Feb 2012

cheeks_fortanning wrote:

I have been to munches and I am afraid that "spanking" is more or less being forced out of conversations by Female Dommes mainly, who are trying to bring there own type of fetish to the fore.

I think many female dominants do not enjoy just spanking because it is limited ( and yes, they may have many other interests) and on it's own devoid of those other things just seems a meaningless metronomic physical activity.

I know to spanking enthusiasts find pure joy in just spanking but it just isn't the case for all of us.

Before you dismiss me, you should know I am the biggest fan of CP generally but I do only like doing it in ways which stimulate me and capture my mind, not just tire out my hand.

Spanking enthusiasts can find they end up seeing Professional Disciplinarians as they struggle to find ladies willing to do spanking in isolation as a lifestyle hobby. Money is a good reason why people might do something they otherwise wouldn't.

For any activity to work, I must get something out of it. Doing it just for the man's pleasure doesn't work. What would I get in return? The pleasure of pleasing? Not very dominant is it?

I am a PD and actually I will not do certain CP scenarios even for money. Reason, it bores me too much. Without a D/s context or a liberated sub who will let me use CP exactly as I want, CP is just a somewhat soulless physical activity in my view. Not yours obviously.

Now, with the right context and dynamic, I can beat men for hours, quite literally and get as horny as hell. I can employ just my hand or every one of the dozen and dozens of implements I own. However, it all hinges on the right feel, the right mood and ambiance.

At Munches, I don't talk about just spanking any more than I do it nowadays. I find it a bit dull. In truth, I don't find talking about bdsm generally is much fun. I much prefer to do it than chat about it. Spanking is just not a topic to capture every woman or even many. Put yourself in their shoes, what pleasure will their be in talking about something when they don't even much like doing it.

You can't complain that dominant women want to do their own thing. It is their right and freedom to do so.

I think pure spanking is a self focussed activity and so maybe dominant women want more than just the sting of their own palms and the wobble of a man's bottom.

I am a dominant woman and the way I look at it is that I offer my domination either via being a PD or at home under the proviso that the sub accepts what I am offering which is dominance and offers me obedience and service. That is what I enjoy and is the only way my dominance is on offer. That is not be selfish, it is just putting my needs first. That is what being dominant is all about. I am not a Top, so I like to be in control and dominating men, and mostly as far as I have seen over the last fifteen years, spanking enthusiasts like just their thing, only their thing and will not be able to give me what I need.

So, yes, I spank, beat, cane, whip, flog, paddle, single tail, crop, strap, and generally whip men but only in ways which are pleasing to me.

Dominant partner in an FLR with @paulss

Reply by Mistress_Ika on Wed 22 Feb 2012

spanking is universal . We all enjoy it and this is accepted in even the most of vanilla marriages and the mild end of BDSM

WWW.MISTRESSIKA.CO.uk

Reply by tanken on Wed 22 Feb 2012

Each to their own and I wouldn't knock someone else's bdsm pleasure but I prefer a little bit more 'edgy' play than hand spanking :)

Happiness is a warm bum :)

Reply by cheeks_fortanning on Wed 22 Feb 2012

Yes,-- I am the same as you "tanken"...... When I mention "spanking", I am using the word for general c/p which includes canes, paddles, straps, tawse etc etc as well as the more simple hand spanking....... I have found, that each person has there own favorite implement that they like to use, so the word "spanking", I feel, covers the whole spectrum and allows the "spanker" person more lee-way opportunity to be able to get in touch with me and probably, other spankees do the same.

Reply by CaneMePlease on Sat 3 Mar 2012

My sympathies to Cheeks_Fortannning, who like me, seems to suffer from the inevitable consequences of a British Public School education, which certainly in my day, was particularly brutal. But because nearly all my school friends went through the same experience, we made a joke out of it and anybody 'who couldn't take it', was ridiculed at school. In fact while our parents were downstairs watching television, we would be beating the sh.t out of each other upstairs and laughing ourselves stupid at the same time. And when the female teachers got involved, it became sexual as well and once you have been spanked by a teacher in the shower with her bare hand, in front of all your mates at school, you either get hooked..........OR you become totally psychotic and your life is ruined.

So for me, spanking and caning is therapy and either leads directly to sex (at home with a partner) or is indirectly sexual (with a Pro or at an BDSM Party) and if it is done right, it can be seriously therapeutic. But I know from experience that trying to combine a vanilla life with an BDSM life can get very complicated. And if you have not experienced this kind of corporal punishment in your own childhood years, you will not understand this extra erogenous zone that English ex-Public school boys seem to have. And if a woman doesn't understand this and does not get pleasure from giving it, then I say go to an SM party and offer yourself to the Femdoms there (who often love to get some practice) or go to a Pro Domme.

And as for myself I don't mind saying that one of the most exciting things in the world is the feeling of anticipation and excitement after you have made eye contact with a lady with the cane or tawse in her hand at a party and you know that it is going to happen, but you just don't know when. Until the moment she approaches you and she says "come with me", because then if you play your cards right, you'll probably still go home alone, but in ecstacy - to enjoy the sexual 'after pleasure'.........sometimes for days on end.

So good luck to all the men looking for a good beating from a nice lady, who actually enjoys what she is doing.

Regards CaneMePlease

Reply by theDukeofMilan on Sun 4 Mar 2012

Thought it was mandatory. No opt out clause.

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