What does it mean to be "slave"?

Posted by Adverse_Camber on Thu 8 Oct 2009 to The_Slave_Forum

"Possession rather than obedience is the defining quality of slavery; obedience rather than possession is the defining quality of submission." (http://www.enslavement.org.uk/iefaq)

This quote crystallised for me last year what i had been trying to understand...that elusive difference between submission and slavery, and why i tend more toward slavery, so much so that it is immediately obvious to dominant types...

The distinctions i am about to make come from hours of reading and research; and from personal experience...i tend toward introspection and hyperanalysis!

In submission, i know i belong to my Master and feel this as an active submission to his will, a struggle between my internal wildness and imposed rules. In slavery, He owns me. i have no will, there is no struggle- i exist because i am owned.

In submission, i negotiate my limits, have them tested, re-negotiate as necessary. In slavery, i have no limits, my body is His and He will do as pleases Him with it.

In submission, i expect a certain level of input into what we do, how we share our time. In slavery, i have no input. Time becomes meaningless as i exist in His time and i wait calmly to spend it as He will.

In submission, if something hurts or i don't like it, i will make that clear, not expecting to get my own way, but hoping that i will. In slavery, it does not matter if it hurts or i don't like it- He will decide what He wants to use my body for and it pleases me to accept anything He desires.

In submission, i need my wants and needs to be met. In slavery, i have no wants or needs...i only exist to meet His wants and needs.

In submission, i have to actively fight my will to meet his.

In slavery, i am at peace.

3rd April 09, leashed_cougar

I wrote this 8 months ago...my perceptions of myself have changed dramatically since then. However, I hope that the thoughts, deeply felt at the time, may be of interest to some of you. Perhaps some discussion could arise too? That would be good!

Take care and be well, Adverse_Camber x

"I know I could always be good to One who'll watch over me"

Reply by x_Thunder_x on Thu 8 Oct 2009

Adverse_Camber wrote:
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In submission, i have to actively fight my will to meet his.

In slavery, i am at peace.

3rd April 09, leashed_cougar

Adverse_Camber wrote:
I wrote this 8 months ago...my perceptions of myself have changed dramatically since then. However, I hope that the thoughts, deeply felt at the time, may be of interest to some of you. Perhaps some discussion could arise too? That would be good!

Take care and be well, Adverse_Camber x

An excellent analysis and yes I've sensed , since you first wrote that ,there have been changes in how you view yourself. Whether you are now at peace only you can answer

Be well

ETA: Though I believe a slave has input and note would be taken of that - all decisions are finally those of the Owner.

This does NOT mean that a slave's spirit has to be broken - or a slave is a doormat

^Thunder^

The biggest liar in the world is They Say. ~Douglas Malloch

What you don't see with your eyes, don't witness with your mouth. ~Jewish Proverb